Help please pave setting a stone

[Summer]

Good Morning, could I ask your help please, I'm wanting to try my hand at pave setting a stone, the stone size is 3mm, my question is, is the tool I need called a graver, and if so what size is needed for this size stone, also what is the tool that makes and smooths the silver into the bead.
Self teaching with the memory span of a goldfish
Jackie x

[ps_bond]

Being picky - sorry - pave is where you cover an area with multiple stones, each grain or bead set (same thing, different names).

If you're using the more traditional graver setting techniques, then you probably want a round graver (scorper - sorry James!) somewhere around the 1mm mark to raise the grains - but if you use an old burr, you can sharpen it at about 45 degrees to give you any diameter you want.
For shaping the bead (and to some extent burnishing it onto the stone) you want a beading tool, which - again - you can also make from a used burr if you are careful. It's just a shank with a polished hemispherical dent in the end.

Then there's bright cutting...

What resources are you working from, or are you just giving it a go?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HiGwZaL1U8 - this may help, it's one of many ways to get this done.

[Summer]

Hi Peter thanks for your reply, i have a piece that i'd like to set the stone in, made the piece made about a month ago and if i don't get a move on the piece will just get shoved to the back
i'll be practicing on scrap first, till i feel confidant that it's anything like it should be :-)

[Summer]

This is the piece I want to add the stone to, at the bottom you can see the hole, I've had to widen this slightly.
Do you think it will work ?

[Goldsmith]

Here is a shopping list Jackie;
for setting,
http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery...prcode-999-AYN
http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery...prcode-999-ALO
http://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery...prcode-999-AIR
At a later date you might want some scorpers for bright cutting around your settings, for this you will need some flat scorpers, 1.5mm. and 2mm. widths are a good start.
Check this photo tutorial that I did, it shows how I prepare my scorpers for use;


James

[Goldsmith]

This is the piece I want to add the stone to, at the bottom you can see the hole, I've had to widen this slightly.
Do you think it will work ?

If you are not confident in cutting settings Jackie, how about drilling 3 or 4 tiny holes around the setting hole, and solder in some thin wires that can be cut and pushed over to set the stone in place, this may be a more suitable setting for this piece.

James

[Summer]

Peter thank you for the link, I did watch that video tutorial a few weeks back but couldn't find the third part, maybe I wasn't looking in the right place.

Hi James, thanks for replying, the shopping list and tutorial, Ill try anything lol but find it hard to take in when learning from a book, although i do have a few :-) so the tutorial is very much appreciated, I did think about drilling and adding wire but thought It was a bit to close to the edge on one side, also thought about filing it flatter and adding bezel, going the rub over way, but it's such a small stone and wouldn't want to loose to much of the face, lol don't make it easy do I, but then if it were easy ....

[ps_bond]

Ah. Yes, you seem to be correct - pt 3 is nowhere to be seen!

For that piece, I'd be tempted to go with James' recommendation, possibly a flush set as an alternative. You've got a lot of organic shaping there, I'm not certain that raising beads (or rather the subsequent cutting) would be quite right alongside it.

[Summer]

Peter thanks, I see what you mean re- organic with the setting i had in mind, Ah yes I could go the flush setting way too, choices choices :-)

Jame hope you don't mind I have saved your tutorial :-)

Time to add some supplies to the growing list of tools :-)
Jackie x

[Goldsmith]

Jackie, I prepared the photo tutorial for anyone to make use of,
I always shape and shorten scorpers to suit my hand size and then harden and temper my new scorpers before use, if you wanted larger photos of the tempering process they are here on another forum;
http://www.guildofjewellerydesigners...d=28&Itemid=66

You might also like to see this leaf shaping photo tutorial that I prepared also, sorry if you have already seen it;
http://www.guildofjewellerydesigners...d=15&Itemid=67

James