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    Default What kind of setting is this, and how is it done?

    I have come across jewellery with stones set in an interesting way. I like it a lot, but can't find anything about how it's done. I don't know if it's because it's not very popular or because I don't know what keywords to use.

    Photos attached.
    I can only think about gluing the bezel (?) to the stone.
    The photos are of rather expensive jewellery. While I assume it might not be done in a traditional way, I'd think the setting is at least somewhat strong/long lasting.

    As an aside, would using glue generally be a good idea for such non traditional settings? I have seen other settings where there doesn't seem to be any metal actually holding the stone. I'd like to experiment with ways to expose more stone or present it in a more creative way, but I don't want to make something that's going to break right away.

    I'd really appreciate any help!
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    I've been meaning to ask about this too. I'm interested in flat faced/sliced stones with a band of silver round the side level with the faces. How's it done?

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    Well no one is about to admit that they have an auntie who works for the company, so we can just take one to bits to find out, or make some informed guesses, such as:

    1. A friction fit assisted with glue, or
    2. Small spikes glued into holes which pass through the rim and into the stone, or
    3. A hardened metal rim sprung into a shallow groove,or a combination of the above, etc.

    But I'm sure you know that already. Dennis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Well no one is about to admit that they have an auntie who works for the company, so we can just take one to bits to find out, or make some informed guesses, such as:

    1. A friction fit assisted with glue, or
    2. Small spikes glued into holes which pass through the rim and into the stone, or
    3. A hardened metal rim sprung into a shallow groove,or a combination of the above, etc.

    But I'm sure you know that already. Dennis.
    Sounds like it requires a bit of trial and error.

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    My guess would be glue is involved.
    generally using glue is considered poor practise but pearls are set with glue....
    I suppose it would depend really, if its a fragile stone anyway then perhaps it doesn't matter too much.

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    Im no expert, but I'm going with the glue theory also.

    Cheers,

    Nick

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    Thanks guys, it definitely seems it's glue. I have found some more photos and it can actually be seen rather well, but I don't have them downloaded.
    I have also come across a recent Ganoksin thread about the very same thing - HERE.

    Overall, despite this not being a "good practice" I'm now much more inclined to experiment with glue and stones in a variety of ways.
    Last edited by JaneDoe; 06-01-2019 at 01:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneDoe View Post
    Thanks guys, it definitely seems it's glue. I have found some more photos and it can actually be seen rather well, but I don't have them downloaded.
    I have also come across a recent Ganoksin thread about the very same thing - HERE.

    Overall, despite this not being a "good practice" I'm now much more inclined to experiment with glue and stones in a variety of ways.
    Thanks for the link, very interesting. Looks like you can choose how pro you want to go with this

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    Interesting, thanks for sharing the link.
    This sounds like the way to go:
    Glue is totally bogus; eventually it will craze, dry, and the stone will fall out. The simplest way to mechanically set it is to use a diamond burr to grind out a hemispheric depression under where the strap will hold the stone, front and back, then use a very small dap or ground down bezel pusher to push the metal into the declivity. Two points and the stone will wobble; three is more secure, four and it won’t go anywhere. Explain to the customer what those dimples on the piece are doing - make them a virtue of your journeyman’s skill - as opposed to those hacks with their glue guns. DALE

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    very interesting... I was always thinking it's answer B from Dennis options.... hmmm

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