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    Hi,

    I am currently living in Dubai, but will probably soon be returning to the UK soon. I sell a lot of my work on ETSY, and 99% of my designs are cast from originals made by me.

    My questions are,

    1. What is the going rate for silver casting in the UK (I will be moving back to Brighton, East Sussex) ?

    2. What happens re hall marks, e.g. are the castings sent back to me, for me to then send off to have hallmarked - which I would prefer as 90% of my work is sold outside of the UK (so I am assuming I would not need to have this hallmarked and I could keep my costs down). Or does all cast silver get sent to assay office before it's returned to me

    3. How much does it cost to have your silver hallmarked ?

    Some background info ....

    Here in Dubai I pay a charge to make a mould of my work which is around 5 - 10 pounds (per mould).

    Then I pay 50p per gram casting charge. This include the cost of making the wax, and the whole casting process. (but no finishing - that is all done by me)

    I buy 1KG of silver at the market rate, and the caster then mixes this with the appropriate ratio of copper (of which I pay market rate for as well) in order to create the casting grain (this process is all included in my 50p per gram casting charge.

    Warm Regards Paul Townsend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Townsend View Post
    Hi,

    I am currently living in Dubai, but will probably soon be returning to the UK soon. I sell a lot of my work on ETSY, and 99% of my designs are cast from originals made by me.

    My questions are,

    1. What is the going rate for silver casting in the UK (I will be moving back to Brighton, East Sussex) ? Depends on the current silver price, plus casting charge and size of casting could incur oversize charge......, plus mold cutting/spruing, unless you sort these yourself??....

    2. What happens re hall marks, e.g. are the castings sent back to me, for me to then send off to have hallmarked - which I would prefer as 90% of my work is sold outside of the UK (so I am assuming I would not need to have this hallmarked and I could keep my costs down). Or does all cast silver get sent to assay office before it's returned to me Castings are returned to you to sort hallmarking

    3. How much does it cost to have your silver hallmarked ? Depends on what the piece os...earring, brooch, pendant, etc....also the more you have hallmarked per hall note the cheaper it becomes....

    Some background info ....

    Here in Dubai I pay a charge to make a mould of my work which is around 5 - 10 pounds (per mould).

    Then I pay 50p per gram casting charge. This include the cost of making the wax, and the whole casting process. (but no finishing - that is all done by me)

    I buy 1KG of silver at the market rate, and the caster then mixes this with the appropriate ratio of copper (of which I pay market rate for as well) in order to create the casting grain (this process is all included in my 50p per gram casting charge.

    Warm Regards Paul Townsend
    I sort my own molds too and pay 7-10, depending on size, casting charge is similar, but more for oversize items,.....this includes the wax, casting, etc, but no finishing.....I don't know of any casters in the UK that will allow you to supply your own grain....others may though??

    I think my answers may sound a little vague, apologies,....I can try to be more specific if this hasn't been helpful??

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    Hi Jill,
    Thanks for your reply.

    What happens regarding Hallmarks, is that left for you to do once you get the casting back ?
    And which company do you use for your casting ?

    Thanks Paul

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    Hallmarking is usually done when the jobs are near finished, as the Assay office wants to see and test any extras used on castings such as links or findings.
    I have had a great postal service from Niagara Falls Casting, see; http://www.nf-castings.co.uk/web2013/

    James

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    Thanks James, how much do they charge ?

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    [QUOTE=Paul Townsend;71279]Thanks James, how much do they charge ?[/QUOTE

    I don't make jewellery so I cannot help you there my cast pieces have been large one offs, I am sure their prices are competitive and probably depend on sizes and amounts required, it costs nothing to contact them and ask.

    James

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    I have used NexGen and Wardle and had great service from both! For prices, best contact them to get quotes on your specific requirements. Depends on complexity, weight of piece, numbers cast and stuff like that. And of course the silver price.

    Carin
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    www.camalidesign.com

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    Regarding hallmarking, it depends really on whether you want a traditional struck mark, or a laser mark. If you want it laser marked, then please send it to us finished and polished, as although laser marking is reasonably deep, it's not as deep as a struck mark, and enthusiastic polishing may result in a loss of definition of the mark. If you want it struck, then you can send it in at any time after casting, though most people usually clean up and assemble the casting first. Remember if the item is not completely assembled when you send it in for hallmarking, we will need to see all the metal component parts, so for example, if you have a two piece casting for a ring, we would need to see both shank and collet. If you need info on pricing and so on, you can download all the necessary from our website: www.assayofficelondon.co.uk
    Hope this helps?

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    Hi Steve,

    Am I correct in saying that I would only need to hallmark work that is sold in the UK, if the work is being sent to USA for example, it does not need to be hallmarked ?

    Thanks Paul

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    If it is for direct export to the US then you won't need UK hallmarks on it, but you might like to check with the US regarding what regulations they would require you to follow?

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