Want to know ALL about hallmarking???

[SteveLAO]

Well folks its that time again!! Our infamous hallmarking information day is back and is better than ever before!
Date for your diaries is Monday April 7th and the venue is the Goldsmiths Hall, Foster Lane, London.
The format for the morning is the same, with two presentations telling you pretty much ALL there is ever any need to know about hallmarking and following the slap up lunch the practical hands on afternoon sessions include "have a go at hallmarking" , "have a go at assaying" , a guided tour of the assay office AND a guided tour of the company library.
Its a fabulous day out and if you've never been to the Goldsmiths Hall before, then that's an amazing experience in itself.
Places will be strictly limited due to the tour schedules and will be first come first served.
Cost is £50 plus VAT.
Let me know ASAP if you're interested in attending. Looking forward to seeing you there!

[SteveLAO]

Just to let you know we still have literally one or two places left for this event on 7th April. I know some of you are coming already which is great, but if you fancy a trip to London, a slap up lunch, a visit to Goldsmiths' Hall (which is usually closed to the public!) and a look around the assay office and library as well as learning some things you didn't know you didn't know then please PM me and I can sort you out a place!

[LydiaNiz]

Cannot make this (boo) but PLEASE do something blog-like with Cooksons - I am so sick of people ignoring the legalities of hallmarking, it could cover basics, including why hallmark, what needs hallmarking, repurposing certs, and so on.

[SteveLAO]

It does all that and much more!!

[TeeDee]

Having been myself last year I can thoroughly recommend.
The staff were great and very helpful and the lunch alone was worth the cost. The knowledge gained was invaluable.

Steve, As an aside, I am with LydiaNiz when it comes to people blatantly ignoring hallmarking rules. If some of the items that show on eBay purporting to be Sterling silver were genuine, at the prices they offer I would be happy to buy them for their scrap value. (is this really 65gms of .925 for £12.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sterling-s...item1e8612dcf9 If it is I might just give up any ideas of selling anything myself )
I can't remember from the seminar who polices this aspect. Is it the Assay Offices themselves or Trading standards.
Kind Regards
Tim

[SteveLAO]

The trading standards have the legal power to enforce the law, but no specialist knowledge of the subject, and the assay office is the other way round, so we work very closely together. Ebay is a real bugbear of mine as its full of stuff that's wrong in one way or another, and from what I can see ebay don't seem to be policing this. Everything from a Victorian sovereign dated 1918 (someone paid £300 for that), and then there were some 9ct sovereigns for sale!!! not to mention modern cast stuff sold as antique with cast hallmarks, stuff with fake marks and all sorts. I think the problem may be that TS departments are regional and ebay is on line so nobody appears to be taking responsibility. We've had some success by personally contacting the sellers of this junk and some have been withdrawn from sale, but i think that's just a drop in the ocean.
TeeDee: I've tried asking a question to the guy selling the silver bangle, but it's bounced back saying due to the number of questions he's being asked, he's not able to answer my question!!!! That says it all I think!! Have a look in his feedback and someone has sent some stuff back to him back saying it wasn't Sterling!

[trialuser]

Having been myself last year I can thoroughly recommend.
The staff were great and very helpful and the lunch alone was worth the cost. The knowledge gained was invaluable.

Steve, As an aside, I am with LydiaNiz when it comes to people blatantly ignoring hallmarking rules. If some of the items that show on eBay purporting to be Sterling silver were genuine, at the prices they offer I would be happy to buy them for their scrap value. (is this really 65gms of .925 for £12.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/sterling-s...item1e8612dcf9 If it is I might just give up any ideas of selling anything myself )
I can't remember from the seminar who polices this aspect. Is it the Assay Offices themselves or Trading standards.
Kind Regards
Tim

That bangle is the typical ali express stuff.
Wouldn't be too bad a way to make a bit of pocket money if you just sold it as what it is - cheap junk fashion disposable jewellery. You could presumably even sell it as being stamped 925 (which it is) as long as you didnt describe it as silver or sterling silver?
Edit: This one, with a bit of 'cut and shut' might sort out medusa's little problem - twice!

[LydiaNiz]

noone seems to care - I emailed a supposedly 'poshe' online company who were selling unhallmarked goods sold as silver (which had to be well over weight as they were big cuffs), but their attitude was 'it's up to the seller to cover it'

[pearlescence]

EBay is just a scam place for jewellery these days. I stopped trying to deal with the UK sellers of fake Tahitian and South Sea pearls (invariably freshwaters) They either knew exactly what they were selling and were rude or had themselves been scammed and were defensive. But the prob is, of course, that people go on there and see the prices and wonder why tahitians there cost £20 and mine in my website are hundreds or thousands (The answer is, of course, because mine are real!As the actress said to the bishop)

[medusa]

Lydia, if they are acting as an agent, like say ebay or noths or etsy, they could probably get away with that and in a sense it's true, BUT you try and list anything on ebay with a major name attached to it like vuitton, ralph lauren etc, and the VERO guys come down on you because LV and RL etc put so much legal pressure on ebay that they had to do something. I suspect TS have too much on their plates dealing with horse burgers etc to have the money or manpower to go after the big agents. Fleabay basically just want to maximise profits, so have little interest in removing scammers.