where to start???

[rainbow]

I'm after some links really if thats okay. I've been working with small amounts of silver clay for a little while but would really like to try my hand at copper and bronze clay as I understand you can now buy both that can be fired without the trouble of ativated charcoal. Does anyone know of any sites or books that are a good place to start? I would ideally love to combine the two but cant even find info online that clairifies if I can do this or if I can make them in pieces and solder? In fact any info would be very much appreicated as silver is just too expensive for me to do what I would like to and the designs i have in my little book of scribbles. Thanks

[Kwant]

I only know of Hadar Jacobsen (spelling might not be right) who does a lot of work with copper, bronze and steel (?) metal clays, she has or at least had some quite comprehensive info on her blog about those types of clay.

[rainbow]

thank you i shall look her up the weekend