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    I bet if you ask for certain skills it will be'can't do that as got to see to the others etc'
    My OH always says 'if you can't do teach' A lot of tutors are makers but not commercially successful but don't throw themselves into teaching.

    I teach to impart the skills that I consider I have improved on from formal teaching to help people to get going, faster ,better etc.

    Don't lose faith in yourself because of this experiance, rise above it !!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lindyloo View Post
    Oh that's no good Su. Perhaps you should look around for a better course. Are there any others locally? Even at my local evening classes, the tutors were recentish graduates with a little practical experience, but they were all extremely knowledgeable.

    It's no good going if you have lost confidence in her advice. Your heart just won't be in it.
    Shes a nice enough lady but the classes are not constructed in my eyes its all very haphazard. She seems to be a bit more on the ball with those that started in september but just lefts me drift seemingly forgetting that i didnt start LAST sept like the others in the group, that i only joined when after the easter term in april or may or whenever that was.

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie View Post
    I know what you mean, worse the teacher that says get the materials and then'Oh no you can't do that'

    I eventually left all classes and learnt myself, set up my business selling my work and now teach workshops myself. My aim is people go home with work they are happy with and knowledge they get from me.

    Conventional classes still teach things like using archimedes drills etc what the heck!!
    I couldnt believe she had told me to get the bloody stuff and then questioned my choice cos it would be hard to twist it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Cottage View Post
    The worrying thing is, Su', that you know how bad she is because you belong to a community that is populated with some very talented people. You can ask questions, get answers and think about things. What about those poor students who think that the tutor is the font of all wisdom?

    Not good, not good at all.
    Yeah well i was in that catagory myself when i started but it didnt last long

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa Quinn View Post
    Is it a local college course Su? I ask because I think a lot of these cater for complete beginners and aims to teach them how to perhaps make a basic pendant or a simple bezel set ring. When I attended a college course my tutor was lovely, but the things that I really wanted to learn ( stone setting, casting etc) weren't covered at all and I just used to work on things at home and used the lessons to use the college's big tools..rolling mills, big torches, sandblasting, polishing wheels, etc, but predictably didn't sign up for the next course.

    Sorry that you are feeling fed up with it, how many more weeks have you got left of the course?
    Its a community education class, in the evenings at a local college. The only bog tool i have used there is the torch, and last night i used the flame thrower, huge beast with twin pipes in a unit with an extractor etc but the average jo dont have that at home. Never used the polishing wheel or the mill. the dont have posh stuff lke a sandblaster.

    She only teaches on setting, the tube one, and if you are lucky bezel, but she wont do flush or casting (which is why j is gonna teach me) which bugged me straight up lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerlily View Post
    Oh Su, she sounds absolutely awful!!! You have every right to be mad!! It the course run by a college or is it independant? How many lessons do you have left? Maybe worth changing, especially now if you have lost confidence!!! xx
    I will be finishing this term, i am not coughing up another £75 to get pigged off there lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Coco View Post
    Is your tutor the reason you were reluctant to go tonight?
    Not her personally, but i just didnt see the point of coing there to do stuff i do at home and pay for the priveledge! Some of them treat it like a mothers meeting

    Quote Originally Posted by Gemma View Post
    Oh Su' that's awful.
    Well i thought it was

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dragon View Post
    Silly woman! (I won't elaborate it's a family forum)

    Looks like you would be better off saving your money next term. Seems you have already taught yourself more at home than she'll every be able to. Remember one swallow does not make a summer, she may have been able to pass on your technique tonight while it's fresh in her mind but she won't be able to do it all the time.

    Yup its certanly made up my mind that i am not going back

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayne View Post
    Oh Sis', that's a bummer

    Make a list of things you want to learn and ask her about them. She must know something so you might as well reap the knowledge & get your money's worth
    J x
    i did thing that myself but then as she has changed her mind about what she told me i needed for my pendent, would the advice be worth getting or would it be different again if i asked next week?

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie View Post
    I bet if you ask for certain skills it will be'can't do that as got to see to the others etc'
    My OH always says 'if you can't do teach' A lot of tutors are makers but not commercially successful but don't throw themselves into teaching.

    I teach to impart the skills that I consider I have improved on from formal teaching to help people to get going, faster ,better etc.

    Don't lose faith in yourself because of this experiance, rise above it !!!!!!!!!!
    i havent lost my faith in my books so i will carry on with them, and just attend one day courses for specific skills i think. far better use of the money i think.
    Su' xx

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    I think you're right Su. No-one can be an expert at everything, we all have our specialisms so it's far better to go to one or two day classes with people who specialise in what you want to learn. I learned the basics at evening classes but it took 2 years of classes before I felt I was ready to go it alone. I spent most of each evening waiting for some attention before I could move on to the next step. My students always go home with a couple of things which they've made and finished because they get all my attention.

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    Yeah i think i will definately pick and chose small courses in future.
    Su' xx

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    It's one of those conundrums isn't it...
    A specific day course easily costs £75 or more (I've paid up to £180) but it IS jam packed with info.
    If you added up everything you did over the term would you have learnt enough for a reasonable day course?

    If not then self taught with forum support may be the way to go
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuranoSilver View Post
    It's one of those conundrums isn't it...
    A specific day course easily costs £75 or more (I've paid up to £180) but it IS jam packed with info.
    If you added up everything you did over the term would you have learnt enough for a reasonable day course?

    If not then self taught with forum support may be the way to go
    nic x
    definately nic, i learnt so much in one day on your course, and no, i dont think i have learnt anything as much in the term and a bit i have been going to the college. So thats definately gonna be my route.

    By the way, when did you say you were gonna start holding diachroic glass classes? :P heehee
    Su' xx

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    Hi Su,

    I think we are probably in a similar situation in that we're signed up for courses that we've grown out of too soon because we have our own facilities at home, are prepared to have a go at different techniques and have soaked up lots of advice from this site. My tutor is very good, but I recognise lots of the things that you describe and get very frustrated at times. Most of his time is spent with those that started in September and a couple of us are left to get on.

    I debated whether to sign on again back in September and did do because it was a bit arogant to think that I didn't need any more instruction. I also thought it would be good to use the college equipment, but frankly mine is better and hasn't been mistreated. I signed up for the full year to June, but may not stick with it.

    My course is subsidised so it is £100 for the year, but we have to do Open College Network modules which are purile to get the subsidy. I probably should have gone on short courses for a particular skill, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    Basically I think we should blame all the wonderful people on the forum who share their tips and experience with us newbies and spoil us for the pace of the average evening class........................
    Jane,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunnybank View Post
    Hi Su,

    I debated whether to sign on again back in September and did do because it was a bit arogant to think that I didn't need any more instruction. I also thought it would be good to use the college equipment, but frankly mine is better and hasn't been mistreated.
    I think that sums up how I felt after doing a local course. The tutor was lovely and good at what she could do but that wasn't much more than me, and I'd bought more tools myself than they had there and, as you said, they were in better condition 'cos I love my tools! I think I'm going to save up for a course with "one of our own"!!
    Lorraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie View Post
    I know what you mean, worse the teacher that says get the materials and then'Oh no you can't do that'

    I eventually left all classes and learnt myself, set up my business selling my work and now teach workshops myself. My aim is people go home with work they are happy with and knowledge they get from me.

    Conventional classes still teach things like using archimedes drills etc what the heck!!
    I have done exactly the same.

    Unfortunately your predicament is not uncommon. I have very large educational establishments near me and a good proportion of my students have come from dissatisfied students from other courses. Infact at my open day last saturday I had 3 people turn up who are in the same situation as yourself. In 15 minutes i had taught them the right way to use a jewellers saw etc etc... they came back monday for a full days workshop and at the end of the day booked up and paid for an 8 week course.

    It's not a new situation it was exactly the same 13 yrs ago...i know i was there.

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    Two years you having a laugh arnt you, you can stone set with the best of them J, oh and those that cant!

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