CN22 is easy peasy.
This is the hand carry form! Every box must be filled in correctly and then you pay the VAT or your stuff is impounded.
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CN22 is easy peasy.
This is the hand carry form! Every box must be filled in correctly and then you pay the VAT or your stuff is impounded.
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Interesting. I've never had to complete something so elaborate for my sales to the US, Canada, Switzerland, etc. Would a pair of London-hallmarked silver earrings, cufflinks or such require a form like that when sold to an individual in the EU?Originally Posted by pearlescence
CN22 is easy peasy.
This is the hand carry form! Every box must be filled in correctly and then you pay the VAT or your stuff is impounded.
I can make out 'European Union' on your form, but searching for 'hand carry' all I found was luggage. Does it have an official name/number?
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Yes it's the form for when you come back to the EU/UK from the rest of the world with anything worth more than £18 of commercial goods. Red channel time.
You were presumably not delivering these items personally?
It's a c88 (has eight copies). I haven't been able to find out if the UK has noticed we are not longer EU viz this form, will have to ask on leaving when once again can travel (remember that? Foren parts?)
Go to the next Inhorgenta show in Munich and bring back some stuff and you will have to declare it with this form, and pay the vat. Plus declare it if you take more than around £9k (was 10k euros)(money laundering regs)
The first time I did this from Hong Kong I was a complete no-nothing chump and pitched up to the red channel like a gormless twerp. Big bag of stuff promptly impounded as that particular HMRC refused to help me fill in form.
Had to go back a week later to reclaim, with form. I can now wizz through the whole procedure in around 30 minutes (first find your HMRC bods of course)..though paying the VAT and duty still hurts! And I have a few old but successful forms with me because every time they suck their teeth like a plumber and tell me I've done it all wrong. At least now I can say that it was fine for the last xnumber of import events - look!
So I really feel for all those shipping drivers going either way.
The advantages of bringing it back with me is that I save a fortune on shipping and customs agent fees and I know my stuff isn't going to get lost (Unless the planes crashes of course, but then I probably won't care)
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No, I'm pretty small beer in comparison. I'm mostly online-only, and generally post out using Royal Mail. Weston Beamor does my casting, so any inputs to be imported are their burden (although I'm sure they'll be passing any new costs on to customers).
But your experiences are very interesting. No doubt being played out thousands of times a day in this new world.
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Couple websites I've found useful for this topic. Perhaps old news to some of you.
https://www.simplyduty.com/import-calculator/
"calculate import duty & taxes for hundreds of destinations worldwide"
https://www.avalara.com/vatlive/en/v...-commerce.html
Good overview of the upcoming EU 2021 One Stop Shop (OSS) VAT return for e-commerce.
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Note the EU's OSS VAT scheme offers a "€10,000 exemption for EU micro-businesses... but... This relief is not available to non-EU businesses. They must register immediately."
https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-...cent-activity/
The same author (Richard Asquith, VP Global Indirect Tax at Avalara) also covers Brexit VAT and customs issues in his blog on LinkedIn.
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This is also tricky for those of us makers living in EU who can no longer afford to have supplies shipped from uk. The whole thing is a nightmare
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