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nina_5682
19-08-2018, 08:07 AM
Hi everyone, happy Sunday :)

I'm looking for a little advice and hope you can help because if you guys can't I don't know who can!

I have a *very* small jewellery business (possibly I'm kidding myself and it's more of a hobby that sometimes brings in money) and I've been trying hard to get it off the ground a little more.

My style more often than not involves turquoise or earthy stones, chunkier rings and a boho, western feel... basically the type of jewellery I love to wear.

The thing is this- I have had numerous commissions based on my designs, but aside from one ring I've never actually sold anything NOT custom made. I'm finding this a little disheartening since I've been told my work is great and it obviously inspires people to ask for customs... But it doesn't sell.

A friend told me I should be looking at trends and making small, low price items I can sell in bulk- such as stackers etc. The thing is, I'm happy to do this but I've never been a trend person. I couldn't, say, make a starfish stacking ring and honestly say I'm being true to myself.

Am I being silly? Should I be looking at trends? Or should I power on and stay true?

I'm due to drop a day at work in September to give myself more time to build my business, but I'm terrified nothing will sell and as much as I love custom work I would really like to be able to stabilise my sales.

Long message, apologies!
Any advice would be so appreciated.

Thank you and have a cracking Sunday

Nina

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pearlescence
19-08-2018, 08:23 AM
Think about how you market instead

nina_5682
19-08-2018, 09:01 AM
Think about how you market insteadYes Pearlescence, you're right there. I need to really figure my marketing out. I've just found the business and marketing topic page on here and it's great, so I'm going to spend some good time on there. Thanks!

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Dennis
19-08-2018, 09:22 AM
Being true to yourself is a happier situation. Some members in the past said they have sold their soul to run a popular business. A compromise is needed if you don't want to sleep on a park bench. Dennis.

nina_5682
19-08-2018, 09:56 AM
Being true to yourself is a happier situation. Some members in the past said they have sold their soul to run a popular business. A compromise is needed if you don't want to sleep on a park bench. Dennis.Thanks Dennis. That's what I think. The last thing I'd want is for my love of making to dwindle. I also struggle with the meaning of 'low cost'. How low cost can handmade items be? I think this is something people don't often understand. A ring for 10-15£ is what I'm told to aim for. I don't think I'd ever buy a ring at that price. Maybe I shouldn't really listen to said friend haha


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enigma
19-08-2018, 10:45 AM
What kind of ring could you make by hand for that price whilst paying yourself above minimum wage ?
I personally think its incredibly hard marketing ready made items but there are several on here that manage ok so it can be done and I think your turquoise rings would be popular if you can just find the market.

CJ57
19-08-2018, 11:14 AM
I’ve never followed trends and if you get no enjoyment out of designing and making something then what’s the point.
A trend would just be copying others and you’d be expected to be cheap which is obviously what your friend is suggesting.
I know everyone hates FB and Instagram but it’s quite a good start to showing what you make and getting a following. I’m not sure of the point of Instagram but I’ve recently opened a page linked to my FB page. It’s hard work , you need good quality photos and it’s slow to get going but many seem to do really well from it and it is a showcase

Sheen
19-08-2018, 01:20 PM
Caroline i'll have to track you down on insta:). Personally i love it as so many local makers and shops are on there and i like the ease of istas picture filters/editing and simple accompanying caption.

Sheen
19-08-2018, 01:28 PM
Hi Nina, i wouldn't go the ultra cheap angle with your jewellery it's just not worth your time. I think you need to find customers who have your taste, what sort of people are they and where can you find them? Have you tried selling at craft markets? You get a good mix of people at these. If going on instagram think about keywords: is your jewellery shabby chic? Or would it appeal to the steampunk community or goths? Follow people who make things that would compliment your jewellery and comment when you can. You'll find an audience. Also in terms of designs don't copy others but be inspired by them and spot gaps in the market. Also say you want to try stacker rings (as they are popular) could you do them in your style in a design that excites you. I think the originality or quality of your work will always have a market, Sheena

Paul Kay
19-08-2018, 03:09 PM
A trend would just be copying others and you’d be expected to be cheap...

I totally disagree, following a trend need not mean copying others, nor equate to cheap. Nor do you need to aim for bulk, low-priced items as the OPs 'friend' suggests.

You can follow a trend and still retain your own style and design ethics in your own interpretation of a trend and sell at a price that reflects the time and material costs and profit margin desired.

e.g. the annual Pantone colour of the year trends for a while, and if popular remains on trend throughout the year. Rose Gold is currently a massive trend but interpreted in their own style by many different designers. Likewise the current trend for 'dainty' pendants both singularly and 'layered' is huge. If your own style could accommodate all three examples, then well-marketed you'd have a chance at a hit product. Of course, if you end up designing on on-trend item that everyone wants to buy, then it's time to bulk up your production, but for that get a production assistant onboard and you, yourself, should carry on with your designing.

A good way to stay up to speed with trends is the weekly Trend section of BenchPeg; https://benchpeg.com/trends

Now, I'll admit, you may find some of the trends they report on a bit weird, I do, but it's a good place to start.

CJ57
19-08-2018, 04:10 PM
I totally disagree, following a trend need not mean copying others, nor equate to cheap. Nor do you need to aim for bulk, low-priced items as the OPs 'friend' suggests.

You can follow a trend and still retain your own style and design ethics in your own interpretation of a trend and sell at a price that reflects the time and material costs and profit margin desired.

e.g. the annual Pantone colour of the year trends for a while, and if popular remains on trend throughout the year. Rose Gold is currently a massive trend but interpreted in their own style by many different designers. Likewise the current trend for 'dainty' pendants both singularly and 'layered' is huge. If your own style could accommodate all three examples, then well-marketed you'd have a chance at a hit product. Of course, if you end up designing on on-trend item that everyone wants to buy, then it's time to bulk up your production, but for that get a production assistant onboard and you, yourself, should carry on with your designing.

A good way to stay up to speed with trends is the weekly Trend section of BenchPeg; https://benchpeg.com/trends

Now, I'll admit, you may find some of the trends they report on a bit weird, I do, but it's a good place to start.
I maybe worded myself wrongly but for me to follow a trend would be following others ideas not necessarily the work. No matter how much of yourself you’re putting into the design it would still be on trend and then it wouldn’t be a one off piece.
I don’t know anyone who buys my work because it’s on trend but because it’s individual. I suppose it depends on what market you want to sell to.

CJ57
19-08-2018, 04:14 PM
Caroline i'll have to track you down on insta:). Personally i love it as so many local makers and shops are on there and i like the ease of istas picture filters/editing and simple accompanying caption.

It’s the same page name as my FB Page Sheena. I only started it because my photos are already edited for fb and ready to go but I can’t be bothered with all the # stuff. I don’t think it has brought anyone else to my fb Page and I’ve some very random likes:/ Having said that I did get Jeff Banks like a necklace a few weeks ago and I had to check and see if he was real or tbh alive:)

nina_5682
19-08-2018, 04:28 PM
Thank you all for your replies! Some great advice and you've all lifted my spirits
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Enigma, making such a low price item would literally mean just covering cost and you're right- there is absolutely no point in that. Soul destroying and as Dennis mentioned- the park bench would be calling my name!

CJ57, hope your venture onto Instagram turns out well... I've had my page on there for a while now and goodness me if it isn't slow... But that's where my customs have come from!

Sheen, some great ideas there and I'm feeling much more hopeful! I definitely need to get myself to some fairs and the idea of following IG pages that complement my jewellery is a really good one. I need to unscramble my brain and really think about my target audience. Some spider diagrams may be going down this evening... nowt like a good spider diagram :)

Paul, thanks so much for the link and the general trends chat- I'll be taking a look and feeling it out and maybe start a new trend myself haha.

Again, thank you all! I'm off to Instagram to find you

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nina_5682
19-08-2018, 04:32 PM
Paul... You weren't half joking about some of the trends being weird https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/e37f1101903b4b5a0a6670515f1e2a4c.jpg

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Sheen
19-08-2018, 04:57 PM
It’s the same page name as my FB Page Sheena. I only started it because my photos are already edited for fb and ready to go but I can’t be bothered with all the # stuff. I don’t think it has brought anyone else to my fb Page and I’ve some very random likes:/ Having said that I did get Jeff Banks like a necklace a few weeks ago and I had to check and see if he was real or tbh alive:)

Found you and now following, i'm shinygleamy on there, i have a private account as that's all i can manage for now but i've still had some sales through it. Dead impressed if the actual Jeff Banks hearted you :) that'll be you on to fame and fortune now ha, ha.

Sheen
19-08-2018, 05:00 PM
Paul... You weren't half joking about some of the trends being weird https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180819/e37f1101903b4b5a0a6670515f1e2a4c.jpg

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A mini beard with a beard, a bit icky, :rofl:

CJ57
19-08-2018, 05:04 PM
Found you and now following, i'm shinygleamy on there, i have a private account as that's all i can manage for now but i've still had some sales through it. Dead impressed if the actual Jeff Banks hearted you :) that'll be you on to fame and fortune now ha, ha.

Now if he’d started following me but you wouldn’t believe how much more interesting the piece was on my fb Page after I reposted it with that headline. It’s completely honkers and means so little in the scheme of things

CJ57
19-08-2018, 05:23 PM
A mini beard with a beard, a bit icky, :rofl:

Well that annoys me as much as hipster beards. Who are hipsters, what era was that beard or what they represent ever hip!

Paul Kay
19-08-2018, 06:09 PM
I don’t know anyone who buys my work because it’s on trend but because it’s individual. I suppose it depends on what market you want to sell to.

Sorry Caroline, I forgot that you concentrated on individually designed pieces, and so your comment would come from that viewpoint. Whereas my mind is currently firmly set in the 'similar but not the same' small production run vein, because that's where my background lies.

Paul Kay
19-08-2018, 06:12 PM
A mini beard with a beard, a bit icky, :rofl:

I didn't even bother reading that one! Saw that picture and that was enough. :)

Mind you, I'm thinking of hanging my shaving brush around my neck when I go to work tomorrow.

CJ57
19-08-2018, 06:37 PM
I didn't even bother reading that one! Saw that picture and that was enough. :)

Mind you, I'm thinking of hanging my shaving brush around my neck when I go to work tomorrow.

That would be interesting Paul, you’d probably be expected to give it a name. The resin pendant on Insta has now become speedos on the washing line after my OH very kindly said it reminds him of briefs. A woman in her 70s bought this at an Art Fair completely unaware. I’m thinking of doing a range!

Paul Kay
19-08-2018, 07:23 PM
... speedos on the washing line ...

Now that would be the best Design Inspiration strapline ever.