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Dennis
26-09-2017, 09:30 AM
Having caught the link-in-link fever, http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8879 I went on to make a Roman link bracelet. For this the ends of the wire loop are formed around two different mandrels (I used the stems of drill bits)

The larger end was then beaten flat, before further forming and folding. Finally, the links, eighteen in all, were woven into a chain and a matching hook element added.

The ease of fusing was a revelation. Having cut the original jump rings, formed around the stem of a doming punch, I invited a number of colleagues to have a try, using a hand held mini torch. All fused at the first attempt and no one experienced any difficulty.

One did pop on stretching, but was quickly re-joined.

It’s strange to think that this might have been all the rage in ancient Rome, but not with Argentium.

Something old-something new.

Argentium Silver Round Wire 1.0mm
18 Jump rings formed around an 18.0mm mandrel and stretched
Ends shaped around the stems of 3.0mm and 5.0 mm twist drills
Ref: Classical Loop In Loop Chains, by Jean Reist Stark and Josephine Reist Stark. Dennis.

Wallace
26-09-2017, 09:51 AM
Very neat and superbly done, as always, Dennis.

mizgeorge
26-09-2017, 10:08 AM
This is lovely Dennis :) I especially like the really elegant simplicity of the integrated clasp - very clever.

enigma
26-09-2017, 10:27 AM
Very nicely done Dennis :Y:

Dennis
26-09-2017, 01:51 PM
Thank you all three for liking my bracelet and thank you George for your remarks on the clasp. My first teacher Barbara Christie was very fussy about detail, so I sill hear her voice in my head and fret about it. Dennis.

Peter_AUS
27-09-2017, 05:40 AM
Dennis,

Thanks for showing this. Are the rings soldered when flatter once you connect them. I don't mean solder of link ends, I mean to keep them in their flattened shape and not spread.

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Dennis
27-09-2017, 08:13 AM
No Peter, the large jumprings are only fused once at the beginning. I don't recommend solder, as they would end up lumpy when folded.

After that they are shaped and folded over. The units link into each other without further ado and could in fact be removed again, one at a time, to shorten the bracelet in the event it is too long. Thank you for looking. Dennis.

Peter_AUS
30-09-2017, 02:58 AM
No Peter, the large jumprings are only fused once at the beginning. I don't recommend solder, as they would end up lumpy when folded.

After that they are shaped and folded over. The units link into each other without further ado and could in fact be removed again, one at a time, to shorten the bracelet in the event it is too long. Thank you for looking. Dennis.Thanks Dennis. I only asked the question as I was trying to workout how they 1 connected to each other and 2 stayed flat together where each is flattened. Reason, if you look at the 3rd photo at the top where it kinks the link seems to be a bit apart compared to the rest. I really like your work, sharing visually and advice, really helpful to someone new and can't really afford to do a course here in Australia. Using most of my small pension too pay bills and save a little each time too either buy some tools or metals. Need a good workspace first. No garage and we rent a smallish house. Inspection next month like 2 weeks time, after that can start to learn a bit more hands on.

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Dennis
30-09-2017, 09:12 PM
Yes, you are right Peter, the links need a bit more tweaking with round nosed pliers at the end, but they harden quickly, so don't always stay perfectly together.

As for work space, many of us started in a small way, in my case with an A3 cutting board for a work surface, a screw-on bench peg, and a small roasting tin for a soldering station. The secret is to find somewhere to leave it all out and not have to clear up. Dennis.

Peter_AUS
01-10-2017, 03:31 AM
Yes, you are right Peter, the links need a bit more tweaking with round nosed pliers at the end, but they harden quickly, so don't always stay perfectly together.

As for work space, many of us started in a small way, in my case with an A3 cutting board for a work surface, a screw-on bench peg, and a small roasting tin for a soldering station. The secret is to find somewhere to leave it all out and not have to clear up. Dennis.Thanks Dennis.

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Peter_AUS
04-10-2017, 12:59 PM
Having caught the link-in-link fever, http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8879 I went on to make a Roman link bracelet. For this the ends of the wire loop are formed around two different mandrels (I used the stems of drill bits)

The larger end was then beaten flat, before further forming and folding. Finally, the links, eighteen in all, were woven into a chain and a matching hook element added.

The ease of fusing was a revelation. Having cut the original jump rings, formed around the stem of a doming punch, I invited a number of colleagues to have a try, using a hand held mini torch. All fused at the first attempt and no one experienced any difficulty.

One did pop on stretching, but was quickly re-joined.

It’s strange to think that this might have been all the rage in ancient Rome, but not with Argentium.

Something old-something new.

Argentium Silver Round Wire 1.0mm
18 Jump rings formed around an 18.0mm mandrel and stretched
Ends shaped around the stems of 3.0mm and 5.0 mm twist drills
Ref: Classical Loop In Loop Chains, by Jean Reist Stark and Josephine Reist Stark. Dennis.Dennis,

What length of 1mm wire and what length chain did it make please. Trying to look at making a necklace for my daughter about 51cm in length. I really like the look of this. She bought a braclet that has a snitch in the centre as the main piece and she asked me to make it into a necklace for her. I think this design would possible suit it really well and sit well too. Would look though at making smaller links as she has a long slender neck. If you could advise would appreciate it. Thanks. Peter

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Dennis
04-10-2017, 02:20 PM
Hi Peter, for the bracelet I used about 1m 20cm of wire and it ended up 18 cm long.

Necklaces are about 41 cm long, but the links would be scaled down proportionately and you could also omit the hammering if you wished.

Here is a link to my necklace http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8879&highlight=Link+in+Link.

It is best to make a few units in copper first ad judge the resulting length from that. Dennis

Peter_AUS
05-10-2017, 12:59 AM
Hi Peter, for the bracelet I used about 1m 20cm of wire and it ended up 18 cm long.

Necklaces are about 41 cm long, but the links would be scaled down proportionately and you could also omit the hammering if you wished.

Here is a link to my necklace http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8879&highlight=Link+in+Link.

It is best to make a few units in copper first ad judge the resulting length from that. DennisThanks Dennis that helps a lot. The copper idea is a good one too, something I had been planning to do first of course as a trial. Your help and advice is really appreciated.

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