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Kathryn Harrison
11-01-2016, 05:05 PM
I've tried so many and the only one I really like is the one I make by hand using emery paper which honestly is super time consuming. I've tried scotchbrite and I can't get an even finish on flat and curved surfaces.

I saw someone mention using an abrasive solution with ceramic shot, has anyone done this(any pictures if you have)? Do you need a separate barrel?

Patstone
11-01-2016, 07:38 PM
I use a coarse stone-type wheel on my Foredom followed by a quick sand.

Dennis
11-01-2016, 10:39 PM
I've tried so many and the only one I really like is the one I make by hand using emery paper which honestly is super time consuming. I've tried scotchbrite and I can't get an even finish on flat and curved surfaces.

I saw someone mention using an abrasive solution with ceramic shot, has anyone done this(any pictures if you have)? Do you need a separate barrel?

Many years ago I had access to a sand blasting unit, so I was able to experiment with matte finishes on silver. The result was perfect, but quickly marred in use by the lightest touch or scratch. The only remedy then was to re treat it. It also tarnished much more quickly than expected

So now I favour a satin finish using a variety of tools, listed below, depending whether there is a clear run, or obstacles in the way:
Soapy brass brush, Wet glass brush, Dry glass brush pencil, Decorators abrasive sponge block, White radial disk, Green Scotchbrite wheel, Abrasive rubber blocks, Sanding drums, Medium frosting wheel. Dennis.

enigma
12-01-2016, 12:30 AM
I use the red scotchbrite wheel and it works fine for me? just as long as I make sure I apply it evenly and finish in the same direction.

joella
12-01-2016, 08:36 AM
For what its worth I love using the frosting wheels for pendant motors and now have all of them and think they were all really worth buying, and I also really like the sponge sanding pads that Caroline suggested (I think the product code is 999 ss01), they give a good subtle finish (thanks Caroline - as I'm a bit dim, it took me a while to find the pm!).
Sue

CJ57
12-01-2016, 01:38 PM
For what its worth I love using the frosting wheels for pendant motors and now have all of them and think they were all really worth buying, and I also really like the sponge sanding pads that Caroline suggested (I think the product code is 999 ss01), they give a good subtle finish (thanks Caroline - as I'm a bit dim, it took me a while to find the pm!).
Sue

I was going to suggest them again Sue! I've tried scotch brite mops on my bench polisher and they are a bit streaky and if you aren't careful they will take a strip out of your work if you press too hard. I have brass brushes for the polisher as well but find the finish a bit too shiny matt if you get what I mean. The sponges give a nice flat matt and depending on the grade or how worn the sponge is you can regulate the finish quite well

Patstone
12-01-2016, 03:07 PM
Has anyone tried the flick mops, they look a bit harsh to me. I use the rubber disc you put about 6 on the mandrel, they work quite well. You have to be careful about direction as well as you can see if you change direction.

Goldsmith
12-01-2016, 04:35 PM
I use my scratch brush unit fitted with a brass bristle brush for large item matte finishes, but sometimes on small shaped items I have achieved a decent matte finish by using a large diamond burr in my pendant drill.

James

TeeDee
13-01-2016, 07:50 PM
I saw someone mention using an abrasive solution with ceramic shot, has anyone done this(any pictures if you have)? Do you need a separate barrel?

I've had some ceramic 'shot' for ages and never really used it so I thought I'd give it a go.
I had a spare tieclip blank that I had wrinkled a bit in the past.
I gave it a quick polish and then masked one end with tape to give a polished reference finish and also gave the mid section on one side a light abrade with P400 paper
Then tumbled for about 45 mins. ( forgot to turn it off earlier!)
Photos attached. The abraded section hardly shows different except when angled to the light.
Not sure how the photos will appear on the forum but feel free to pm me if you need better quality.
Hope that helps with your query Kathryn
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LydiaNiz
15-01-2016, 07:26 PM
Love the flick mops (but I wear with my biggest safety glasses). Just took this snap with my phone. The ring is textured and the edges burnished but gives you an idea - silver has been darkened slightly and used a red (fine grade) flick mop 8582

Dennis
15-01-2016, 07:38 PM
I use them too, but they are an expensive item to replace when bald. The self assembly ones with replacement wires are a pain. Someone should invent one that doesn't moult. Dennis.

Goldsmith
15-01-2016, 08:15 PM
I have posted this photo before, the matte effect on the background plate behind the crest was created using my scratch brush unit fitted with a 4 inch brass bristle brush, while it is rotating I push a stick in the bristles above where I held the plate for texturing, this method gives the same effect of the flick mops, pushing the stick into the bristles makes them flick onto the surface and the surface is struck by the brass bristle ends creating the matte finish.

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James

Unhindered
30-01-2016, 11:47 AM
I use the garyflex blocks which can be quite good, they come in different grades, some don't like it but I get on ok with them!

https://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Abrasive-Rubber-Block-Medium-----Grey-Grit-120-Garryflex-prcode-999-CFJ