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Animalnutty
19-10-2015, 09:16 PM
Hi,

I am looking for some specific gemstones, looking like flat cabochons (I know by definition that doesn't make sense) but polished and a little maybe beveled at the edge or even a tiny dome just at the very edge for setting. I am looking for something just a few mm thick ideally and various sizes, ideally square, but happy for rough shapes too. Something in various sizes but that will be around the 3cm sq size. Ideally turquoise, carnelian, lapis lazuli, (something a lovely bright pink but not too pricey) those kind of stones.

I've been looking all afternoon and haven't been able to come up with anything, the nearest I have found is slices of agate which is in other countries and looks more like glass than gemtones. Even that would have been worth a try if they had been able to be set and were the right sizes but were all huge. The only other thing I have managed to come up with came up as flat top cabochons but were only available in onyx.

Does anyone have any idea, I'd be really grateful.

Thank you,

Karen

metalsmith
19-10-2015, 09:39 PM
Hi,

I am looking for some specific gemstones, looking like flat cabochons ... ideally turquoise, carnelian, lapis lazuli, (something a lovely bright pink but not too pricey) those kind of stones.



Since this is a Cookies based forum then you should acquaint yourself with their product line and see if you can find anything along the lines you desire there.

If not then you might search for 'cabochon' on ebay (then look in the Other Loose Gemstones or Loose Agates categories), there are plenty of sellers on ebay that stock this kind of thing. Beware reconstituted / synthetic turquoise and look out for dyed lapis. Carnelian may be un / heated. Just be aware of what you are buying.

These are generally rocks / gemstones (as opposed to individual gems). For a lovely bright pink, consider rhodochrosite / zoisite or pink-opal. There will be all grades on sale and you'll generally get what you pay for. Some other stones that might fit the bill could be larimar (pale blue, but be aware this may fade with time / bright sunlight), chrysoprase, jade & serpentine (if you are into greens), seraphinite, ocean jasper.

Some items from abroad will attract customs control / fees (and PostOffice 'handling' fees on top!)

I've recently been cutting chrysoprase and white poppy jasper, but these are generally smaller than your search description and not so bright colours.

Good luck with your search.

Animalnutty
19-10-2015, 10:45 PM
Thanks for the reply, I have literally been searching all day a lot of that on ebay - will try just searching under cabochon as was adding in other words, so I must be doing something wrong if there is plenty of it out there - the only ones I could find (very limited) were from abroad and am wary because of customs charges and returns if things aren't right etc.

Cookies was the first place I looked and definitely nothing there. I will keep trying, thanks.

enigma
20-10-2015, 12:40 AM
You can find flat slabs of turquoise on Etsy if you type 'freeform turquoise' into the search and select craft supplies :)

ps_bond
20-10-2015, 05:01 AM
There's at least 2 people on here doing that sort of lapidary work - myself and lilacmonkey (although my efforts are more focused on faceted stones at the moment).

I've no rough on hand that fits your reqs at the moment (not strictly true - afraid I have got some lapis but this particular batch is needed!), Stu might. I'll try and find his website...

...Found it:
http://lilacmonkey-cabochons.weebly.com/index.html
He's also on FB.

Animalnutty
20-10-2015, 08:47 AM
Thanks very much. I didn't even consider hand cut stones and my first thought on reading your reply was it would e prohibitively expensive, but on seeing the prices of the ones on that website and a few others that I have looked at it might just be possible and oh my goodness now I am going to waste so much time looking through beautiful stones and wanting to buy stones I cant really afford to buy. Thanks for the idea :)

Dennis
20-10-2015, 09:14 AM
It is also worth visiting Rock n Gem shows if there is one near you. They are a likely source and also have sellers willing to cut slabs.

here is the calender http://www.rockngem-magazine.co.uk/rockngem-magazine-web-links/mineral-show-events.html Dennis.

Animalnutty
20-10-2015, 09:56 AM
Thanks Dennis, I would absolutely love to go to shows but have chronic health issues that mean it's not really an option for me as mobility is an issue for me now and can't drive that far anyway. Plus this is something I would really like to get sorted quickly if possible. You never know though, maybe things will improve enough for me to get there one day, I would love to go and have a look, I did go to one many years ago and loooved it :) Thanks for the link.

metalsmith
20-10-2015, 12:12 PM
Thanks for the reply, I have literally been searching all day a lot of that on ebay - will try just searching under cabochon as was adding in other words, so I must be doing something wrong if there is plenty of it out there - the only ones I could find (very limited) were from abroad and am wary because of customs charges and returns if things aren't right etc.

Cookies was the first place I looked and definitely nothing there. I will keep trying, thanks.

Generally I have found sellers to be good and no returns (with rocks) to date - a different matter with silver.

Be picky when buying and always review a sellers reputation. Know what the rocks you desire should look like. Then you will be more alert to things that don't look right.

Check for negatives in the seller's feedback and especially look out for reports that the item wasn't genuine. I will just avoid these sellers. I don't care if they do sell some real and some tat. If they don't distinguish they are not to be trusted. I did buy a lapis necklace in 'silver overlay', but it looked like rubbish and it was. I bought it as an experiment. It was cheap enough to give the kids for dressing up and enabled me to shoot the seller's reputation with a negative feedback. Laughably this was in the minority with around 100 negatives against 20,000 positives. Just what are people thinking? :(|

http://gemrockauctions.com/ and http://gemselect.com would be other sites to look.

Use the terms 'rough' to look for samples with no processing or 'slab' to look for relatively thinly cut sections - sometimes rough & slab together.

It might be a bit daunting at first but DYOR and you'll soon get confident.

Stacey
20-10-2015, 02:15 PM
Julia (expat in Hong Kong) carries very good quality stones and her freeforms might be of interest. If you use the code 015D15 you get 15% off your order this month too. I've never had to wait more than a week for anything either. http://www.joopygems.com/categories/freeform-rose-cut-cabochons-polki.html

metalsmith
20-10-2015, 03:42 PM
I'ts probably just worth adding that some websites / ebay sellers list the actual item for sale and others list a generic stone item. Personally, I prefer not to take the chance that the natural variation between items in the generic category results in quality that is less than that shown - but that's up to you. Hope you find what you're after.

Animalnutty
21-10-2015, 08:24 AM
Thanks for help everyone. I have found a couple of people that can probably help, one in particular, if I can forget the fact that some FB businesses seem to answer messages like they are texting you and don't other with manners, which really bugs me, but their products do look good. I am going to contact someone else today as they are longtime hobbyists and all their profits go to a really good cause and their work looks good standard too. Thanks so much for help.

metalsmith
21-10-2015, 12:40 PM
Sounds mysterious... when you have bought your fill, you will have to let the rest of us in on the secret.

Animalnutty
21-10-2015, 09:11 PM
Oh nothing too mysterious :D But something that is a bit special to me as well as being a new design idea, so I hope it turns out as visualized in that old head of mine. Will share a piccie when done :)

CJ57
21-10-2015, 09:36 PM
Might be wrong but think he was meaning share the sellers so that we can all have a look and buy :)

Animalnutty
21-10-2015, 10:01 PM
Um OK, it's gem cutters/lapidarists so certainly nothing mysterious there!

CJ57
21-10-2015, 10:15 PM
The only ones I can find with that title on FB is a closed group:/ we are always keen to find new suppliers ourselves any excuse to spend money!

metalsmith
27-10-2015, 04:31 PM
Would love to see your finished item (and always interested in new suppliers too) :)

New World Gems (https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?v=info&expand=1&id=159597574084411)

Pentagon Gem Cutters (https://www.facebook.com/Pentagon-Gem-Cutters-145431312146366/photos/?ref=page_internal)

I'm not on facebook, but it is always good to have info shared as others will willingly share with you for the good of the forum group.

glitterandgem
27-10-2015, 05:26 PM
The closed group is probably the one that a few of us belong too on here, if anyone has any requests then we will be posting it on the fb group for all to see as Peter has done with some of your requests. Once i have made my 5 posts then I will put a link up on the forum where anyone with an interest in lapidary ,gemstones,silversmithing etc are more than welcome to join

Goldsmith
27-10-2015, 06:04 PM
This is a link to the lapidary group on FB ; https://www.facebook.com/groups/1413911112256201/

James

glitterandgem
27-10-2015, 06:33 PM
Cheers Jim

glitterandgem
12-11-2015, 04:38 PM
Hi did you have any luck finding the stones you were looking for , as I may now be in a position to help