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Sassoon
25-02-2015, 01:14 PM
Hi folks I need help, i really like the Sievert Pro 86 Jewellers Gas Blow Torch and would consider buying it but Iv read that the propane gas that it requires is not safe to be in the house, as I don't have a separate workshop to keep the tank that it requires, what other alternatives do I have besides the small hand held blow torch.
Thanks

BarryM
25-02-2015, 01:25 PM
Propane is no more dangerous than butane IF USED CORRECTLY, make sure it is turned off at the cylinder when not in use, keep cylinder away from heat and out of reach of children. With care and common sense it will not be a problem


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Dennis
25-02-2015, 07:13 PM
In an ideal world, that would be the answer. However some of us have moments of distraction, or inattention, or might not notice a defective connection.

So cylinders should be kept where there is permanent ventilation and where there is not a source of accidental ignition.

I would also like to mention, that some members have a preference for the EZ torch, available from Sutton Tools, because it is lighter to handle, and allows you to adjust the air hole when you need a more bushy flame. Dennis.

BarryM
25-02-2015, 07:37 PM
All good points Dennis and applies to all bottled gas, not just propane.


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china
26-02-2015, 12:48 PM
If you treat it with respect and follow the apropriate safety rules it is not a concern I have lpg, acetylene and oxygen in my workshop it is even ok'ed by my insurance.
if you are really concerned mount it all on a mobile trolly and move it outside at the end of the day

Tabby66
26-02-2015, 05:47 PM
Funnily enough I had a visit from fire service fire prevention yesterday (a service they offer and just wanted to check a few pointers out). They weren't concerned at all about propane being in the house, you just need to be sensible. I always turn the cylinder off after each session and it has a flashback arrestor on, connections are checked on a regular basis, more so if cylinder is moved or I can smell gas. Tubing is not compromised, I use caution with flammable products/clothing in the vicinity, I always close the door on my workshop if I'm not in it (this is actually more to stop the cats entering and causing chaos in there or harm to themselves!!).

The only thing, which would apply to all fires, regardless, is to immediately remove yourself and others fro the building an call 999.....as he said, we want you out safely, bottom line.

Hope that reassures folk :)

ps_bond
26-02-2015, 05:58 PM
There are also flammable gas detectors available quite cheaply.

Beadjoux
25-03-2015, 12:03 PM
I'm about to start using this torch; my workshop (was supposed to be a dining room in our new house, but I've claimed it as my own!) is on the ground floor and am planning to sit my tank outside on the garden just by the window for extra safety. I have the windows open for venitlation anyway so no great hardship.

Aurarius
25-03-2015, 12:27 PM
I'm about to start using this torch; my workshop (was supposed to be a dining room in our new house, but I've claimed it as my own!) is on the ground floor and am planning to sit my tank outside on the garden just by the window for extra safety. I have the windows open for venitlation anyway so no great hardship.I wouldn't say you need to have the tank outside; plumbers use propane and Mapp indoors in confined spaces all the time. If you really want bad ventilation try soldering copper pipes underneath the floorboards of a house. If you do have the tank outside there are still potential hazards at the burner end anyway. The best thing is to be sensible at all times, as others have said.

Goldsmith
25-03-2015, 12:40 PM
I store my propane tank outside, but carry it into my workshop when I use it.

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James

Goldsmith
25-03-2015, 01:07 PM
I'm about to start using this torch; my workshop (was supposed to be a dining room in our new house, but I've claimed it as my own!) is on the ground floor and am planning to sit my tank outside on the garden just by the window for extra safety. I have the windows open for venitlation anyway so no great hardship.

One piece of information to remember is that propane is heavier than air so if the propane leaks from your screw fittings of the cylinder, the gas drops to the floor rather than rising to leave via the open window.
James

Beadjoux
25-03-2015, 06:14 PM
Yes, I am going to leave the gas cylinder outside in case of leaks, so it would dissipate in open air. Saw a good tip on you tube about putting diluted liquid soap around all joints to spot any leaks.

Beadjoux
25-03-2015, 10:36 PM
Sounds like good advice.

Beadjoux
25-03-2015, 10:37 PM
Yes, I think I will do the same after reading more posts. Thank you!

china
26-03-2015, 05:39 AM
Remmeber it is not only the cylinder that can leak there are conections and valves on the hand piece as well

Beadjoux
26-03-2015, 06:37 AM
Yes, every connection needs to be checked, right from the tip of the torch down to the regulator connecting to the cylinder. Very safety conscious. ��