Before I go and screw this up...I thought I would pause to ask you

[Eveness]

7091Hi everyone!

It's my sisters b'day this weekend and I've been making her some little flower earrings today.

I've made good progress so far but just as I was about to pick up my torch to start soldering, I had that moment where I thought to myself "Eve, this is where it could all go wrong, do you really know how to approach this? Will you end up melting the earring posts in the process?"

I'm so very grateful for a bit of internal dialogue at these crucial moments! ;)

Anyway, before I go and make a mess of this, I thought I would drop you all a note to ask your guidance on how to solder the flower to the post without melting the posts? I'm still very new to silver making and having had one or two melting moments on other pieces, I want to try and get this one right first time.

My challenge is that I need to thread the post through the hole in the centre of the flower, add the solder, front or back I'm not sure.I thought maybe put the solder on the front inside the flower and draw it back onto the post but then that would be alot of heat near to the post. Would it be better sitting the solder round the back of the flower and heat from the front? These are small earrings (the flower is about 5mm wide, with 3mm studs) I'm just terrified of it turning into a big old blob!

I have attached a photo to show you.7090.

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and suggestions.

For now, I think I shall have a break so I'm off out for a glass of wine with a good friend and plan to hit the soldering in the morning....maybe after a couple of coffees first!

Cheers! ;o)

Eve x

[Tabby66]

Hi Eve,

Are you sure that the ball on the stud is solid?? If it hollow then it is likely to explode if heated as the trapped air inside warms and expands.....to avoid this you could drill a tiny hole somewhere that won't be seen once the stud is soldered into the surrounding part of the earring. If I was anxious about melting the post I would solder from the front, fluxing well, drop a small pallion of easy or extra-easy solder under the ball and a poly heat all over, if needed, just turning the earring as soon as the solder flows, then briefly reapply the heat on the back to draw the solder through.

Enjoy your wine tonight and hope the soldering goes well in the morning!!
Tabby x

[caroleallen]

I think that's good advice from Tabby. I too was wondering whether the ball was hollow.

When I make similar earrings, I ball up the end of the wire, push it through a hole that just fits. I then use locking tweezers to hold the posts with the flowers facing down and solder from the back. The locking tweezers serve to take some of the heat and thus protect the posts.

[Dennis]

Note all the above, plus:

Those studs are so tiny, that you won't need much heat to make the solder flow.

So make sure the air hole in your torch is slightly closed to give a more bushy lame, and work in semi darkness, so that you can see when a part gets too red and quickly move the flame. Dennis.

[Vos]

Eve, those flowers are lovely!

Had Caroleallen not given a better method I would have just balled some silver and attached a straight post to the back, but then I'm a complete novice too. Either way, I hope it works out as they're quite fab (I've not been brave enough to try flowers yet).


Regards

Vos

[Eveness]

Hi Tabby, that is a very good question...I rang Cooksons to ask and they themselves didnt know! I think I shall drill that hole you suggested to see for myself and see.


Hi Eve,

Are you sure that the ball on the stud is solid?? If it hollow then it is likely to explode if heated as the trapped air inside warms and expands.....to avoid this you could drill a tiny hole somewhere that won't be seen once the stud is soldered into the surrounding part of the earring. If I was anxious about melting the post I would solder from the front, fluxing well, drop a small pallion of easy or extra-easy solder under the ball and a poly heat all over, if needed, just turning the earring as soon as the solder flows, then briefly reapply the heat on the back to draw the solder through.

Enjoy your wine tonight and hope the soldering goes well in the morning!!
Tabby x

[Eveness]

Good advice on the locking tweezers! Thanks!


I think that's good advice from Tabby. I too was wondering whether the ball was hollow.

When I make similar earrings, I ball up the end of the wire, push it through a hole that just fits. I then use locking tweezers to hold the posts with the flowers facing down and solder from the back. The locking tweezers serve to take some of the heat and thus protect the posts.

[Eveness]

Cheers Dennis...much appreciated!


Note all the above, plus:

Those studs are so tiny, that you won't need much heat to make the solder flow.

So make sure the air hole in your torch is slightly closed to give a more bushy lame, and work in semi darkness, so that you can see when a part gets too red and quickly move the flame. Dennis.

[Eveness]

Thanks Vos, I feel I may have created more problems by using the ready made studs, but I guess its all a learning process! Good luck on your creative journey too!


Eve, those flowers are lovely!

Had Caroleallen not given a better method I would have just balled some silver and attached a straight post to the back, but then I'm a complete novice too. Either way, I hope it works out as they're quite fab (I've not been brave enough to try flowers yet).


Regards

Vos

[Eveness]

Hi Tabby, that is a very good question...I rang Cooksons to ask and they themselves didnt know! I think I shall drill that hole you suggested to see for myself and see.

Yep balls are hollow...ive drilled a small hole in the back.

I'm going to attempt the soldering now! Argh!

[Eveness]

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Thanks for your help...soldering went well and no exploding balls thankfully! Thanks again for your advice! Eve x


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[Patstone]

Beautiful, sister will be very happy with them.

[caroleallen]

Cute! Exploding balls would not have been nice!

[Dennis]

Well done Eve. Something you will be more confident about now. Dennis.

[Tabby66]

They look lovely Eve!! Well done, I'm sure your sister will be thrilled!! :)

[enigma]

Lovely! well done!

[susieq]

They're lovely Eve. I have a similar pair my mother made for me over 40 years ago and I wear them every day. Well done!

[Wallace]

Blooming great result. I am sure they will be very appreciated

[Vos]

Well done! They've come out lovely

Vos

[Stacey]

Very pretty. Now, make a matching ring! :-)

[theresa]

Really pretty - I bet your sister will love them.

[Eveness]

Thanks everyone! I feel very relieved that we averted the exploding balls and my sister was really pleased to receive them too! Thanks again for your advice, looking forward to my next project! 👍


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