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Nick martin
28-11-2014, 04:50 PM
A family member is kindly buying me a GRS Benchmate system for Christmas this year ( setters package ) and I can't wait to use it!

I'm primarily going to use it for setting stones in rings, texturing them, etc. are there any other obvious uses that you folks use this system for other than manipulating rings?

Cheers,

Nick


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enigma
28-11-2014, 06:11 PM
When you get it can you tell me what it does please? :D

Nick martin
28-11-2014, 06:22 PM
Ha ha, will do! Lots of YouTube videos on it, mainly ring setting ones.

Primarily used for stone setting and working on rings as allows more control and hands free operation.

Nick

enigma
28-11-2014, 07:18 PM
Thanks, didn't think to look on youtube!

Aurarius
28-11-2014, 09:59 PM
The Benchmate system is very versatile and invaluable for setting of all kinds, not just rings. It can of course be used for many other jewelry tasks as well, since what it is essentially is a glorified swivel vice and a whole range of accessories is available for exploiting its potential.
When you move on to a microscope to do all your pavé work on platinum etc. there's a different GRS holding system (the positioning vice) that will help you to keep your work centred at high magnifications.
Mark.

emsterv
28-11-2014, 10:49 PM
I'm not sure if this is included in the setters package since I bought mine used and it was with the bundle, but I use this for setting flat objects. Its covered in InstaMorph right now, but it looks like a "T". The picture is the back of it (the part that gets put into the benchmate's jaws).

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Nick martin
28-11-2014, 10:55 PM
Thats included in the setters package emily, thanks.

I now realise what its used for, bit like the thermoloc material isnt it?

Nick

emsterv
28-11-2014, 11:11 PM
Very simliar, although Instmorph you have to heat up in water. I'm not sure if thats the way you heat up thermo loc. You can use your torch to heat up instamorph, but you have to be careful because it can start to sort of smolder/burn if you get the flame too close. I do that when I'm lazy and don't want to travel up stairs to the microwave...

I had some Instamorph hanging around from another project before I started making jewelery, so thats all I've ever used.

Aurarius
29-11-2014, 02:52 AM
Incidentally, Nick, don't forget you can specify whether your setters package comes with a right-handed or left-handed side plate; this might be useful to know if you are left-handed because if you don't specify you'll end up with the default right-handed plate. Also, note that Walsh's have a very good offer on on the setters package at the moment.

ps_bond
29-11-2014, 08:31 AM
Personally, I'd say that a) a right-hander should have the plate on the LHS supporting the off hand, as the dominant hand won't be resting and b) the damn thing gets in the way regardless and should be removed!

On other uses - the primary part of the Benchmate is effectively an overbuilt ring clamp - very handy for much more than just rings, it can be used to hold pieces for filing, sawing etc. as well.
Remember the inside ring clamp has 2 ends so you can work on the side of a ring as well (take the brass pin out, flip it over and put the brass pin back in the now correct position).
You wouldn't believe how much lemel ends up inside the ring clamp - strip it down and clean it out periodically.

As for the positioning vice - you can use a Benchmate under a scope, but you'll keep rotating work out of view, which is a pain. I use a couple of GRS microblocks with different height stands that I printed; that way I don't need to keep rearranging the scope, even when I have to tip work on its side for access.

enigma
29-11-2014, 09:39 AM
Im such a dip! I thought you were talking about this, its not even GRS LOL
http://www.suttontools.co.uk/power-tools/foredom-products/foredom-all-set.html

Hans Meevis
29-11-2014, 12:17 PM
I regard the GRS system as one of the most important advances of bench technology in the last 50 years or so.
I swop my bench pin and saw pin many times a day.
I use the setting pin and ball everyday.
One of my now qualified apprentices once said to me that if you professional and you don't have this system you are going nowhere.
I don't completely agree of course, but dang, it does make your work much easier and faster.
Much more important for me though, would be to find a family member who buys me such cool Christmas presents.
I have been super well behaved and asked Santa to bring me a PUK welder for TEN Christmases in a row, and NOTHING has come down my chimney--ever.
I'm starting to believe he doesn't exist.

Gemsetterchris
29-11-2014, 12:42 PM
Benchmate is a great system. I'd still use it if it wasn't for the microscope issue.
You can search out all the available attatchments available that you might want.
As for the hand rest..never used mine.

Nick martin
29-11-2014, 01:02 PM
Thanks for all that info folks, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one even more now, and cheers for the tip about Walsh's doing a great deal!

Hans.. You may have struck lucky, and your other half may be viewing this topic. Failing that, find a large screen monitor and leave your post on view as the screensaver!

Nick


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Aurarius
29-11-2014, 01:06 PM
Personally, I'd say that a) a right-hander should have the plate on the LHS supporting the off hand, as the dominant hand won't be resting and b) the damn thing gets in the way regardless and should be removed!

Yes, I suspect most people feel the same way. I've got both the left-handed and the right-handed plates (I'm ambidextrous - it's a long story), have tried both of them, and now use neither. Maybe some job will come along where I have a burning need for a side-plate again so at least they're there if I need them.

Gemsetterchris
29-11-2014, 01:32 PM
I have been super well behaved and asked Santa to bring me a PUK welder for TEN Christmases in a row.

Takes 11 to save up. Best of luck this year :D

ps_bond
29-11-2014, 03:36 PM
The argon cylinder gets stuck in the chimney though.