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Dennis
28-07-2014, 07:26 AM
My Platinol supply was low, so it seemed a good time to try out Noirit from Cookson. Mention of the N word at the Hatton garden showroom, brought on furrowed brows and a general state of incomprehension, until I explained that it was a new product for blackening silver and would not be in the printed catalogue.

When it was brought up from the store room the litre bottle looked huge compared with my tiny 100ml bottle of Platinol at home. However the Noirit was priced at £22.50 inc. VAT, compared with £16.56 for much less Platinol.

When I enquired about printed instructions or a data sheet I was told that there were none, but I stood my ground and eventually was directed to the Cookson Customer knowledge base online. It was not possible to print this out in the showroom, because the computers were not connected to a printer. (And why was I being such a pain?)

A short trial.

On inspection the two solutions were similar in colour and looking at the data sheets the composition was comparable, except that Noirit contained caustic soda as an added ingredient.
Both liquids will attack organic substances such as hair and skin, so care must be taken against splashes, particularly when dispensing from a large bottle, and gloves must be worn. If using a brush it should be synthetic.

The results on my silver offcuts were comparable, except that the Noirit appeared to act slightly more slowly. There was no difference in the final colour, but the Platinol sample had a duller surface until rubbed up. As with Platinol, Noirit has only a very slight sulphurous smell when applied and this quickly passes.

My conclusion is that Noirit is good value for money and gives a good result. The litre bottle is rather unwieldy and might last a lifetime if you only use it occasionally. Dennis.

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trialuser
28-07-2014, 08:31 AM
Cheers for that Dennis.
You should do that as a cookson youtube video review!

Tabby66
28-07-2014, 08:35 AM
thanks Dennis, that is really useful.......so you wouldn't now dismiss the platinol, but if one was to run out,.....the noirit is at least as good and much better value??

Petal
28-07-2014, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the useful comparison Dennis. Where would we be without you! ;)

pearlescence
29-07-2014, 07:16 AM
Good job you were not a secret shopper....

Dennis
29-07-2014, 08:09 AM
Good job you were not a secret shopper....

Well I was in a way Wendy. Three people were eventually gathered round to sort out my concerns. They looked at each other and then at me and no doubt thought: what an idiot.

The problem remains: when will this litre of solution be past its useful life? The data sheet indicates that it should be kept cool and in the dark, but if like me you don't use it often, there will be plenty left in five year's time.

Dennis.

LydiaNiz
29-07-2014, 10:15 AM
Was wondering how this would perform - thanks Dennis. I do love my platinol (although my current bottle will probably last me another 2 years before I'm ready to try something else!)

vsilvered
29-07-2014, 08:55 PM
Many thanks for the review Dennis!

I was wondering, as the product description suggests that the finish doesn't flake off, in your tests, did you find hard-wearing?

Keia
29-07-2014, 09:09 PM
Ooh wow! Thanks for this Dennis =D

Aurarius
29-07-2014, 09:13 PM
Now sit back and watch the price of Noirit rise inexorably.

Dennis
29-07-2014, 09:39 PM
I was wondering, as the product description suggests that the finish doesn't flake off, in your tests, did you find hard-wearing?

Well I only have the test pieces from my scrap pot, but the finish is clean and smooth as any I've seen. The problem with flaking seemed to occur with other agents if you developed the colour too fast, or tried to get a deeper black.
Then built up colour would flake off. It is also well known that solder resists patination and stays paler looking.

[quote] Aurarius: Now sit back and watch the price of Noirit rise inexorably. [Quote]. Well now's the time to invest then Mark. Regards, Dennis.