Mitre Vise chennier jig type thing

[medusa]

So, since it's my birthday and I have dosh to spend, I'm looking to invest in a mitre vise doo-dah. As a great believer in 'buy cheap, buy twice' plus not wanting to blame my failures on tools I'd like a good one, but they seem to be in short supply and I'm not sure what are good ones anyway.

I've seen Pepe and Forca branded ones (but not in the UK) and wondered if they were better than the unbranded UK ones I've seen.

So far I've seen these ones:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JEWELER-CUTTING-MITER-FILING-TUBING-JIG-SAW-VISE-PERFECT-SHAPE-CUTTER-TOOL-/190584172223?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5fb3aebf

http://www.ottofrei.com/Pepe-310.00-Jig-Vise-Miter-Cutter.html

http://www.suttontools.co.uk/joint-levelling-tool-mitre-jig.html

http://www.goldline.co.uk/addToolsProductToCart.do (page 4 near the bottom if it doesn't show up)

Though the last two are UK based (which I'd obviously prefer), there are no details about them or enough detail to explain the price difference.

Any advice on what to buy greatly appreciated :)

ETA: also this one from Walsh
http://213.171.196.132/Chenier-Clamp-.aspx?i=TJ52&t=0

[ps_bond]

I think mine is from Baird Tools. Er... It works? I haven't scarred it with files, the mitres seem accurate and it has what looks like a scraped surface. Sees a moderate amount of use and it hasn't annoyed me into buying a different one :)

Marked "Pioneer" FWIW

[medusa]

Do they have a website? There don't seem to be many available in the UK, though i have now located a Bergeon one *gulps*

[mizgeorge]

I've got one that looks like the Walsh version (which is by far the cheapest) and I've used it several times a day, pretty much every day, for the last two years without any real damage. I use it both to cut and file and I couldn't work without it!

I compared it to an expensive Swiss one, and couldn't find any real difference.

[Dennis]

You've had plenty of answers Liz, so I'll change tack. I doubt whether the most expensive ones have any benefits, because all you need is that they have been hardened to resist filing. That said, I would always buy important tools from a reliable company, who have themselves vetted them for quality. Surprisingly files don't seem to suffer noticeably when used on them.

In the college I attend once a week the multi-users have managed to deface the filing block by using gritty abrasives instead of just files; so careful who you lend it to, Dennis.

[Patstone]

I started writing this before but they were doing something to the site and it saved as draft so not sure where draft is so I will write it again.
What is the difference between the one you are looking at or

http://storedhttp://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Special-Joint-Filing-Tool---Chenier-Cutter-prcode-999-59

apart from the shape of course. What can you do with it that the other one wont do. Always on the look-out for helpful tools.

[medusa]

I've got one that looks like the Walsh version (which is by far the cheapest) and I've used it several times a day, pretty much every day, for the last two years without any real damage. I use it both to cut and file and I couldn't work without it!

I compared it to an expensive Swiss one, and couldn't find any real difference.

OK, if they are really all much of a muchness I'll go with the Walsh one.


You've had plenty of answers Liz, so I'll change tack. I doubt whether the most expensive ones have any benefits, because all you need is that they have been hardened to resist filing. That said, I would always buy important tools from a reliable company, who have themselves vetted them for quality. Surprisingly files don't seem to suffer noticeably when used on them.

In the college I attend once a week the multi-users have managed to deface the filing block by using gritty abrasives instead of just files; so careful who you lend it to, Dennis.

lend out my tools? yer 'avin a laugh!


I started writing this before but they were doing something to the site and it saved as draft so not sure where draft is so I will write it again.
What is the difference between the one you are looking at or

http://storedhttp://www.cooksongold.com/Jewellery-Tools/Special-Joint-Filing-Tool---Chenier-Cutter-prcode-999-59

apart from the shape of course. What can you do with it that the other one wont do. Always on the look-out for helpful tools.

The link seems to be dead, Pat, but I think I know the one you mean. I was going to go for the jig type one because I recall reading ages ago on here that some people were having problems using them and George recommended the type I'm looking at. I'm also a bit clumsy and tend to drop small tools, so try to go big when I can.

[ps_bond]

lend out my tools? yer 'avin a laugh!


Too right. Not worth the stress. When I've let people try the airgraver I've hovered around nervously...!

Baird are your Goldline link, FYI.

[mizgeorge]

Pat - the two do quite different things, and I find the mitre jig far more useful. I can use it to cut 90 or 45 degree angles in wire of any shape or tube, without marking the stock, and also to file those perfect angles in anything cut otherwise. Brilliant for ensuring perfect joints for soldering and the angles are useful for making frames and special shaped bezels as well.

I can easily be mounted in a benchmate or vice, but I tend to hold it by hand (which I know is a bad habit, but is very quick and easy!).

[medusa]

which is the same pic as the Walsh one... which leaves me with money to buy a few books. and not flippin' academic ones either!

[Dennis]

[QUOTE=mizgeorge;55803 I can use it to cut 90 or 45 degree angles in wire of any shape or tube, without marking the stock, and also to file those perfect angles in anything cut otherwise. Brilliant for ensuring perfect joints for soldering and the angles are useful for making frames and special shaped bezels as well.[/QUOTE]

To add to George's list, it will hold tube securely, even quite short pieces, for cutting seats for stones, or cutting threads in them. Is that too many commas? Dennis.

[medusa]

See, I really actually NEED this! I will be better using this! And I think I might have just bought A Young's entire print output.

[Patstone]

Thanks people, I will order one I think. It will be a useful tool for cutting at an angle which is why I want it. I have the handheld one already and it has proved invaluable but you cant cut angles of course. Cousins have one for £25 which seems to be half the price of anyone else. Will give it a shot, if it is good and it doesnt last I can always buy a better quality one later on.

[Patstone]

Do you put the mitre vice in a GRS Vice or put it in the ring vice. I bought the jewellers set-up with a bench peg, and didnt buy the vice. I tried it in a proper vice but its a bit high to be comfortable.

[mizgeorge]

I generally just hold mine by hand. If I need more stability, I either put it in a vice or clamp it to the side of my bench with a small g clamp.

[Patstone]

I will give it a try. Couldnt get my head around the angles of the 45 deg. Wanted to do a picture frame type setting with wire, but kept getting the same angle on both ends. Stuuuuupid, anyway got it now and have cut four pieces the correct way, all I have to do now is solder the angles without it melting.