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ps_bond
15-09-2010, 12:57 PM
Start point:
8"x1"x0.80mm for the bangle
6"x1"x0.80mm for the bracelet

Tools:
Anticlastic stake (steel, wood, Delrin - whatever!)
Suitable raising hammer(s) - metal, Nylon or wood.
(saw, torch for annealing & soldering, files etc.)

I'd recommend sawing the profile out rather than cutting it with snips - the snips will result in an edge that needs more filing due to both the serrations it leaves and the bend deformation at the edges. This needs more filing than a saw-cut outline would.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/5181557813_c396e5666f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181557813/)

For the bangle, make sure the ends are square (using Dennis' tip for checking with squared paper), bend them together and solder. I've done a quick solder on them, followed by sawing the join & resoldering to make sure that the ends are clean. Make sure that the solder flows completely through the joint - raising puts a fair amount of stress on the join, and any weakness in it may well pull it apart. Pickle, rinse, dry, remove any excess solder from the surface, then mallet the bangle round on a suitable mandrel. Use a leather, rubber, wooden or plastic mallet to avoid deforming it too much; if you're using a tapered mandrel like mine, you'll need to flip the bangle over and do it again to avoid turning your bangle into a frustrum (a truncated cone). Then - anneal and pickle again.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1365/5181557855_efabb86f36.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181557855/)

Selecting the smallest curve on the anticlastic stake that the bangle width will fit and a hammer where the curvature more-or-less matches the stake, gently hammer along the bangle. Hammer parallel lines along to start to curve the bangle, turning it along the stake as you go. Once you reach the middle, turn it around and do the other side. As the form progresses, move the bangle to progressively smaller curves until it has the curvature you want. Anneal as you go along if needed, but don't anneal as you approach the final form - the work hardening gives this form a lot of strength.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4144/5182158024_5d7dc7b64c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5182158024/)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1287/5181558539_c89ca30440.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558539/)

You can level the edges a little bit by placing the bangle flat on a suitable surface - a surface plate is ideal - and gently tapping any high spots down, but it gives a more consistent curve if you can do this on the stake.

Finally, make sure there are no areas of the bangle need reworking; polish and - in the case of copper anyway - apply a wax polish to avoid it tarnishing too quickly.

The bracelet is similar, but... First of all, I cut it to a tapered oval shape, then bend it to shape on an oval mandrel. There should be a gap slightly over 1" at the ends; this forms the axial curve (the subsequent raising will put in the generator curve). Note that these are not as easy to bend to size after they're formed due to the shape - can be done, but it's more work.

The same applies in forming these as the bangle - work in lines parallel to the centreline of the bracelet, gradually working the shape in. As you do so, you'll find the bracelet is determined to open out again - hold it closed as firmly as you can while hammering it, but you'll have to take it back to the mandrel regularly to reshape it. As you do so, some of the generator curve opens out again. You can put some of the axial curve in as you're hammering by striking over the edge of the stake; it depends upon what you find easiest.

If you want to use reticulated or roll printed silver, then reticulate/pattern it before cutting out, then do use a Nylon mallet to avoid damaging the pattern. Keum boo I'm undecided on - it's easy enough to adhere the gold when the bracelet is flat, but I don't really see why it shouldn't work just as well at the end (and you wouldn't need to do the multiple annealing cycles to start with).

If the solder joint tears on the bangle, you'll need to file the tear, insert a piece of silver and solder that in place to fill it - don't try to fill the tear with solder. Frequent annealing does help avoid the problem altogether; if the repair isn't successful, you could always saw out the soldered area and turn it into a cuff instead.

I've found that - depending upon the amount of raising done - the diameter of the bangles decreases by about 10-15% from the original size, so you can calculate back from that.

Further reading:

Metals Technic, McCreight
Form Emphasis for Metalsmiths, Seppa

Mia
15-09-2010, 08:46 PM
Thanks so much for that. It's a project I'd love to try.

jille
16-09-2010, 06:43 AM
Thank you Peter, I want to have a go now.
Jill

MuranoSilver
16-09-2010, 09:39 AM
Great descriptions but as you asked.....
:camera:please......:giggle:
Nic x

ps_bond
16-09-2010, 09:42 AM
I've got some that are usable and need resizing; the ones of the bangle mandrel sat in my lap - er, perhaps not.

MuranoSilver
16-09-2010, 09:46 AM
ROFL - OK the images in folks heads are probably worse than the actual pictures might be
(unless of course you were wearing your kilt "regimental" style :popcorn: )
Nic x

Sunnybank
16-09-2010, 10:14 AM
Thanks Peter, will have a go!

Petal
10-11-2010, 10:41 AM
Hi Peter,
Many thanks for the stake, which I received the next day. Is there any chance of having some pics with the tut you posted???

ps_bond
16-11-2010, 03:28 PM
I'm limited to 4 pictures per post as well...

Finishing the 1st course:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1437/5181558599_6c454f016a.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558599/)

Flip it round, do the other edge:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1378/5181558665_80e2734792.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558665/)

2nd course done:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1398/5182158814_f45f9f23e8.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5182158814/)

Working in towards the centreline:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5181558813_1a3ec94335.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558813/)

ps_bond
16-11-2010, 03:30 PM
1st pass on this notch done:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/5182158884_419e5a223d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5182158884/)

True the bangle up on a bangle mandrel:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/5182159018_1fcd845f7f.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5182159018/)

Anneal!!!:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4124/5181558979_6640c2a0b5.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558979/)

Onto the next notch down in size:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4127/5181558927_cf035d90a1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/88787044@N00/5181558927/)

Petal
17-11-2010, 02:40 PM
Many thanks Peter for the pics. I have been doing something similar with my stake, but my piece of copper doesn't look anything like your bangle haha At least I know what to aim for now.

Off to have a play...

Melanie De Castro Pugh
17-08-2013, 08:50 AM
Peter, are you still selling your anticlastic stakes? I've not been on the forum for far too long, I'm afraid, circumstances have not been good lately!

ps_bond
17-08-2013, 09:07 AM
I've still got a few large on hand, I've not made any small ones in an age.

Melanie De Castro Pugh
17-08-2013, 10:59 AM
Fabulous, can I buy direct from you or would you prefer I do it via Etsy?

ps_bond
18-08-2013, 07:11 AM
Hmm, do it direct or pay Etsy commission... Decisions, decisions :)

TeeDee
21-01-2014, 05:46 PM
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Hi Peter,
With the help of your previous posts (many thanks) and a lot of copper practice pieces I finally plucked up courage to make up a couple of silver anticlastic bangles.
Have attached a couple of photos although the attachment process didn't seem to go too well so not sure if they'll send.

A couple of questions though:

- What is the purpose of soldering the joint then cutting it open and resoldering? I've heard from others that this is good practice but don't quite understand the advantage to the jointing process

- The anticlastic raising process seems to stretch the joint such that even after polishing and ultrasonic cleaning, I can't seem to entirely 'hide' the joint on a polished piece. Any ideas on how to improve this?

- To get my bangles hot enough to melt hard solder and subsequent repeat annealing involves a fair amount of time under the torch (mine is a Sievert which looks similar to yours) so I repeatedly coated them with Argotect to protect from firestain. Do you get any problem with firestain on your larger pieces or am I just being overcautious?

As an aside, although I have access to a nice delrin stake at my teacher's workshop, at home I've found an old hardwood lamp standard with some nice curved profiles on it which serves very well for the moment!

All the best
Tim

ps_bond
22-01-2014, 06:53 AM
- What is the purpose of soldering the joint then cutting it open and resoldering? I've heard from others that this is good practice but don't quite understand the advantage to the jointing process


I'll often run a saw through joints before soldering to make sure the edges match; if it's something like a ring, the metal is stiff enough to hold still while cutting, but with something like this, the ends flex more than I can be bothered with so I effectively tack them together to stop them moving.


- The anticlastic raising process seems to stretch the joint such that even after polishing and ultrasonic cleaning, I can't seem to entirely 'hide' the joint on a polished piece. Any ideas on how to improve this?

I've not had this, so I'm not sure. Perhaps leave cleaning the solder joint up until after the forming is complete? It may depend on how close-fitting the joint is at soldering time.


- To get my bangles hot enough to melt hard solder and subsequent repeat annealing involves a fair amount of time under the torch (mine is a Sievert which looks similar to yours) so I repeatedly coated them with Argotect to protect from firestain. Do you get any problem with firestain on your larger pieces or am I just being overcautious?

YES! Definitely use Argotect or a firestain-resistant silver. Boxing the item in with firebricks will help shorten the time at temperature.


As an aside, although I have access to a nice delrin stake at my teacher's workshop, at home I've found an old hardwood lamp standard with some nice curved profiles on it which serves very well for the moment!

Whatever works! I've laid out a new batch of small stakes finally, need to get them cut out. I was looking at having them profiled by waterjet, but the prices I got back didn't make a huge amount of sense against the time it takes me to do a batch.

TeeDee
22-01-2014, 06:12 PM
Many thanks for the advice Peter.
Good point about cleaning the joint after forming although I guess the inside of the curve will require more patience.

Regarding your own stakes, presumably they are a small batch in Delrin? No doubt most HP waterjet companies are looking for large batches but Safire seem to advertise one offs and prototypes if you haven't already approached them.
Havent worked out yet how to copy/paste links on this forum yet but they will show up with a simple Google search
Tim

ps_bond
23-01-2014, 07:18 AM
Hadn't tried Safire; I'll give them a call, thanks. The last quote I got, the cutting + the material costs came almost to the amount I've been selling them at, but they'd still need sculpting and finishing by me.

TeeDee
24-01-2014, 07:33 PM
I'd be interested to know how you get on with Safire if you care to post or PM once you've had a reply.
Looking at the prices you've charged in the past any 'on cost' is going to be difficult to deal with. Unless of course you go into large scale production.
Tim

TeeDee
25-01-2014, 06:07 PM
Just realised my post yesterday may be misconstrued.
I meant the previous prices for your stakes were so reasonable that any on cost would make it difficult to maintain those prices.
Apologies if it came across that I thought the prices were high.
Tim

ps_bond
25-01-2014, 06:51 PM
Wasn't how it was interpreted, don't worry - what I'd like to achieve with contracting out is parity on the time it would take me to do it myself; if I spend the equivalent of 1 hour's labour contracting out something that only takes me half-an-hour, while it would still free me up for that period of time it isn't necessarily a sensible cost.

Craigjones
06-05-2016, 09:45 AM
Hi I'm looking to buy some stakes and raising hammer, what set would you personally go for? Iv seen the Durston ones, someone else mentioned the delrin ones, I was hoping to get them here in the uk