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reikiangel
30-07-2009, 09:08 PM
Hi there
Im looking for PNP blue acetate paper ..... i think thats what its called!
Its for transferring an image onto silver before i enamel

xx

ps_bond
30-07-2009, 09:22 PM
Is that Press'n'Peel blue? Toner transfer paper? I think Maplin sell it amongst others in the UK - it's used for hobbyist PCB prototyping.

Is that being used as an etch resist for cloisonne?

MuranoSilver
30-07-2009, 09:27 PM
I found a few for you Cibs.co.uk (http://www.cibs.co.uk/etch/form.html)
Plus there are more on Ebay if you search under "press n peel"
Maplins PressnPeel (http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=13464&criteria=AB15R&doy=5m3)
Nic x

reikiangel
30-07-2009, 09:31 PM
I love this site!!! u lot are fab! thankyou xxxx;)

MuranoSilver
30-07-2009, 09:35 PM
Here is a whole section on the Art Jeweller forums on using Press n Peel
http://cs.artjewelrymag.com/artcs/forums/t/7563.aspx
(including fixing common problems and various folks learning curves)
Nic x

reikiangel
30-07-2009, 09:48 PM
Nicola
Thankyou so much for your help today, i really appreciate it xxx

MuranoSilver
30-07-2009, 09:50 PM
You're welcome :D
Nic x

Solunar Silver Studio
31-07-2009, 06:14 AM
Just wondering Nic, do you know if etching works with pmc, or is it too absorbant/porous...not that I have anything in mind...yet....!! Just musing! I want to add it to the 'data bank'!!

Congrats on your 'promotion' to the hierarchy by the way!![]

barbara

ps_bond
31-07-2009, 08:15 AM
Given the porosity, could you be certain you'd neutralised the etchant adequately?

MuranoSilver
31-07-2009, 10:01 AM
Lol -
Yes, Etching would work with PMC but you'd have to neutralise the solution by boiling it after.
E.G. When I pickle earrings, I then use a bicarb solution to neutralise afterwards....
There are far easier ways to get pattern onto PMC though (it's one of it's benefits). You can do water etching,
you use a resist then gently wipe a damp sponge repeatedly over the piece. This removes layers of clay anywhere
you haven't protected. It leaves a beautiful soft etched surface.
The technique is covered excellently in the PMC Technic: A Collection of Techniques for Precious Metal Clay (9781929565214) by Tim McCreight.

Another option is Photo Polymer plates (which is how I did my Thoth pendant (http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158))
Once the plate has been made you can reuse it over and over again :)

Enamelling on Metal Clay: Innovative Jewelry Projects by Pam East is a superb starting point for enamellers new to PMC/Art Clay Silver.
It details various ways to achieve a suitable place to put your enamels.

Another option is to just cut designs through PMC and pop another layer on.
Here's a Tutorial I wrote on my PMC Tips blog on making layered pendants for resin or enamel (http://pmctips.blogspot.com/2009/04/making-layered-pendants-for-resin.html).
http://www.muranosilver.com/images/handcrafted/starry-night.jpg

Hope that helps
Nic xx

ps_bond
31-07-2009, 10:06 AM
Another option is Photo Polymer plates (which is how I did my Thoth pendant (http://www.cooksongold.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158))
Once the plate has been made you can reuse it over and over again :)


Saw that - I thought that if I needed a reproducible pattern like that, I'd probably engrave a brass plate to do it (or aluminium if I was going to be lazy). Not as useful for your detailed photo-based patterns though.

Oh - meant to ask - have you tried superglue/cyanoacrylate fuming for lifesize fingerprint reproduction?

EmmaRose
03-08-2009, 12:38 PM
don't forget maplins have shops too.
Em

MuranoSilver
03-08-2009, 01:57 PM
Oh - meant to ask - have you tried superglue/cyanoacrylate fuming for lifesize fingerprint reproduction?

Nope never tried that - though it sounds interesting, would love to give it a go for comparison!
The wonderful media of PMC lets me take a direct impression though :Y:
Nic x

ps_bond
03-08-2009, 02:04 PM
Nope never tried that - though it sounds interesting, would love to give it a go for comparison!
The wonderful media of PMC lets me take a direct impression though :Y:


Good point. I suppose that technique might be more useful if you wanted to reproduce the same print several times - but otherwise, why make things more complex than they need to be?

Di Sandland
03-08-2009, 02:31 PM
The wonderful media of PMC lets me take a direct impression though

I was reading on notonthehighstreet.com about one maker who sends kits out to her customers that they return with the fingerprint. I can't for the life of me work out how that works. Anybody?

MuranoSilver
03-08-2009, 02:45 PM
Either he's sending the PMC itself or (much more likely) he's sending a 2 part moulding compound. The customer takes an impression and sends it back.
He would then use fimo or similar to make a finger which is then baked and used like a stamp....
Nic x

Di Sandland
03-08-2009, 04:57 PM
Ah, that makes sense - thanks Nic

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